President’s Chapel

southerner
President’s Chapel
« Thread Started on Jan 28, 2011, 6:49pm »
Well, if last week’s chapel was something, this one was a humdinger. The sermon/battle cry/charge to keep was titled, “Will You Stand and Fight?” We are in war, friends, one that divides right and wrong, he said. Seems the College is at the center of the culture war. What a rant. It was the same kind of thing he penned about in the Baptist Message two springs ago.

I guess the crew at LC ain’t too fond of the Beatitudes which make up a part of the Lectionary reading for this coming Sunday. Me wonders what they think about the part that says, “Blessed are the peacemakers…” It is a part of that Bible, you know.

ampd
Re: President’s Chapel
« Reply #1 on Jan 28, 2011, 11:13pm »
I don’t think he was making the point for a literal fight.

To quote the Beatitudes in this specific context is irrelevant. The disciples, as well as Paul, fought for the truths of the Gospel which is what Dr. A. wanted.

Though I may not agree with all that he said, I think you read into that what you wanted.

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southerner

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« Reply #2 on Jan 29, 2011, 2:17pm »
Ampd:

While he wasn’t advocating a literal fight he was propagating the ongoing culture war that further divides the country. And I take issue with your point that the Sermon on the Mount is irrelevant in this context. Fundamentalists have long subscribed to Pauline theology over the teachings in the gospels. I guess Jesus’ teachings are too radical. What about equality, turning the other cheek, sharing? All are teachings in the gospel, and all are by and large ignored in Baptist life. If it ain’t about the gays or why we need more guns or why the Bible is harmonious despite being written by various writers with different motives, then it isn’t sermon worthy.

Joel C. Gregory, in his book Too Great a Temptation, suggests that Fundamentalists must always have an enemy, even if one must be invented. Essentially that’s what occurred in Baptist life in the 1970s. And we see it in rants like Thursday’s.

Louisiana College is an embarrassment to many alums. She has drifted more from Baptist ideals since 2005 then in her entire history. Bible freedom and soul freedom have essentially disappeared.

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ampd

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« Reply #3 on Jan 29, 2011, 3:45pm »
Southerner,

Sorry that I did not make this clearer. I meant quoting the Sermon on the Mount is irrelevant in this context specifically by how you are using this verse. Are you saying that is the only reason Christ came is for equality and turning the other cheek? Then you are forgetting Matthew 10:34. Not peace, not equality, but a sword. When the Gospel is at stake, and it certainly is in matters of abortion and homosexuality, Christians must make a stand.

Here is what Calvin said of Matt. 5:9, “Happy are the peacemakers. By peacemakers he means those who not only seek peace and avoid quarrels, as far as lies in their power, but who also labor to settle differences among others, who advise all men to live at peace, and take away every occasion of hatred and strife. There are good grounds for this statement. As it is a laborious and irksome employment to reconcile those who are at variance, persons of a mild disposition, who study to promote peace, are compelled to endure the indignity of hearing reproaches, complaints, and remonstrances on all sides. The reason is, that every one would desire to have advocates, who would defend his cause. That we may not depend on the favor of men, Christ bids us look up to the judgment of his Father, who is the God of peace, (Romans 15:33,) and who accounts us his children, while we cultivate peace, though our endeavors may not be acceptable to men: for to be called means TO BE ACCOUNTED the children of God.”

As I said before I do not agree with all of what Dr. A. said. I think he left out the main reason to take stands on such issues, that being the Gospel. However, I am aware that you will disagree because you seem to pick and choose what you like and not like with Scriptures, meaning your quote “why the Bible is harmonious despite being written by various writers with different motives.”

Thanks for the response.

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southerner

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« Reply #4 on Jan 29, 2011, 4:23pm »
Ampd:

I affirm Calvin’s right (and yours) to interpret this because I believe in Bible freedom, a bedrock Baptist doctrine. As for peace, me thinks the Fundamentalists do a grand job of promoting strife. Remember the lies and strife they created/told/exaggerated in order to bring about changes at LC.

As for Jesus’ coming I think it was for various reasons: salvation and promoting equality included.

As for homosexuality, not sure how it is an enemy of the gospel. Do you listen to AFR? And for abortion, while I oppose it, I also oppose all slaughter, including wars drummed up by the military-industrial complex.

Finally, my point about biblical harmony seemed to irritate you, so much so you seemed to write me off. You subscribe to Calvin, no doubt one of the brightest minds ever. But he was a lawyer first and thus his point of view was quite systematic. His work is impressive but it aims to make the Bible operate systematically (in harmony). I have often said that systematic theology is an oxymoron. So let’s not kid ourselves. That being said, I affirm that the Bible is trustworthy. I just come at it with a recognition that its writers were in fact pilgrims like us.

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ampd

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« Reply #5 on Jan 29, 2011, 5:07pm »
Southerner,

Forgive me for my misunderstanding of your statement towards Scripture. Enjoyed the dialogue.

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igomer

Re: President’s Chapel
« Reply #6 on Feb 3, 2011, 2:14pm »
Oh Dr Aguillard was so wonderful in this Chapel! How he used his darling Granddughter to make the point about us always wanting to take Satan’s prizes and not folow the will of God – was inspyring!! Goose-pimbles again, Dr A! No matter that Faculty and Students thought exployting your Granddughter on stage was a bad thing. NO! You Sir are doing God’s work and the message was clear.

And the Programs coming that will allow up to go to isarel and preach the word to them, and to Africa and win them to Christ, and to China. And having Chinase students come here to learn and be saved! God is blessing LC, Dr Joe and it is because of your leadership. The new dorms, and the plaza and the cafeteria are all more evidence of your leadership too!

But when you called us all to take a stand and to go to jail rather than to allow the godless gays to get anymore power – why I was standing right there with you Fine Sir! The faculty and the staff and all of us are ready to go to jail if we need to in order to stop these satan worshipping gays. Letting them in the military and letting them have their ways secshully with our fighting boys makes me sick too, just it does you! The battle is raging and we will all stand with you to defend the “Pea Patch” Dr Aguillard! Thank the Dear Precious Lord that LC is not falling apart like the other so called Christian Schools in the country. You as our anointed Leader have caused us to raise up and be warriers in the greatest battle in the history of the wolrd as you called it.

I couldnt imagine why the whole audience wasnt on their feet and ready to run out and win people to Jesus! Run out and FIGHT people in the name of the Lord! Join in the Battle with you, Dr A! There are still some in the school that don’t believe you are the annointed one. There are still those right under your nose who harber you great hatred and who have meanness in them to hurt your work and the work of God. Satan still have his demons in the school, and the faculty, and on the bord even. So watch out, Good Dr Aguillard. Watch your sides and your backs. Satan is using peoplefor bad and you need to know it. But I know you are the chosen one. Thank you, Jesus! For Dr Joe Aguillard and his decision to follow you! Amen!!

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jericho

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« Reply #7 on Feb 3, 2011, 4:48pm »
Igomer, you do make me smile. :- ) Can you tell us more about this association with China?

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bigleague (Steph Mabou)

Re: President’s Chapel
« Reply #8 on Feb 12, 2011, 4:12pm »
Thoughts on the “Stand and fight” chapel:

“Instead of hating the people you think are war-makers, hate the appetites and disorder in your own soul, which are the causes of war. If you love peace, then hate injustice, hate tyranny, hate greed – but hate these things in yourself, not in another.”
— Thomas Merton

“Peace demands the most heroic labor and the most difficult sacrifice. It demands greater heroism than war. It demands greater fidelity to the truth and a much more perfect purity of conscience.”
—also Thomas Merton

“Merely to resist evil with evil by hating those who hate us and seeking to destroy them, is actually no resistance at all. It is active and purposeful collaboration in evil that brings the Christian into direct and intimate contact with the same source of evil and hatred which inspires the acts of his enemy. It leads in practice to a denial of Christ and to the service of hatred rather than love.”
— Thomas Merton, again

I thought they were all appropriate, and I just love Merton. Hope y’all enjoyed.

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